Navigating the labyrinth of modern society, we find ourselves at the crossroads of social media's omnipresence and the quest for authentic connection. With the insightful @Jaylean0rtiz, a future dental hygienist with a sociological lens, we peel back the layers of how platforms like Facebook and Instagram have altered our interactions, our presentation of self, and our business engagements. Prepare to rethink the essence of cultural identity and influence as we dissect the transformation of Instagram from a snapshot-sharing corner to a colossal marketing juggernaut.
Stepping into the minefield of contemporary relationships and dating, this episode doesn't hold back on the raw and often painful realities of seeking love and self-worth. From the heartache of infidelity to the perplexing nature of dating labels, we share personal accounts that resonate with the struggles many face in their pursuit of a meaningful connection. Listen as we unpack the dilemmas of privacy versus publicity in romance, and how our choices reflect deeper values when it comes to selecting a life partner.
Yet, it's not just the intricacies of love that we confront. This conversation also ventures into contentious debates over bathroom safety, gender boundaries, and the protection of our children in a world where lines are increasingly blurred. We tackle the harrowing tale of a school incident that has us questioning policy and parental vigilance, all while weaving through the lighter notes of popular music and the charged political landscape we're navigating. Join us for an episode that promises to challenge, inform, and spark dialogue on the pressing matters that shape our lives.
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Navigating the labyrinth of modern society, we find ourselves at the crossroads of social media's omnipresence and the quest for authentic connection. With the insightful @Jaylean0rtiz, a future dental hygienist with a sociological lens, we peel back the layers of how platforms like Facebook and Instagram have altered our interactions, our presentation of self, and our business engagements. Prepare to rethink the essence of cultural identity and influence as we dissect the transformation of Instagram from a snapshot-sharing corner to a colossal marketing juggernaut.
Stepping into the minefield of contemporary relationships and dating, this episode doesn't hold back on the raw and often painful realities of seeking love and self-worth. From the heartache of infidelity to the perplexing nature of dating labels, we share personal accounts that resonate with the struggles many face in their pursuit of a meaningful connection. Listen as we unpack the dilemmas of privacy versus publicity in romance, and how our choices reflect deeper values when it comes to selecting a life partner.
Yet, it's not just the intricacies of love that we confront. This conversation also ventures into contentious debates over bathroom safety, gender boundaries, and the protection of our children in a world where lines are increasingly blurred. We tackle the harrowing tale of a school incident that has us questioning policy and parental vigilance, all while weaving through the lighter notes of popular music and the charged political landscape we're navigating. Join us for an episode that promises to challenge, inform, and spark dialogue on the pressing matters that shape our lives.
Follow our IG & Twitter for live updates @LFTGRadio
You said we don't even make love no more. Oh my, no, no, no, no, no, cause you know that's not right. Oh, I just sweat and bleed Cause I can't give you my life. It's your father loving me. You pushed us trust in me. I'm not in love. I'm not in love. It's kinda cool, nothing like that. I was doing the hours coming right there why you left me alone. You said you know I was coming home. You said you know I've been out there working all night. I'm a 5-lady and a baby gets on my fucking nerves About the same thing. We don't speak the same language. No, no, no, no, no, no. We don't speak the same language. We don't speak the same language. We won't be the cry of the wrong. They tell you I'm drunk, drunk that there ain't no love.
Speaker 2:Reporting live from the motherfucking gutters. Your boy, elliot Carter, got a special guest with me today. Jasmine, talk to him.
Speaker 3:Hey, what's up y'all? I'm Jasmine JB and Ortiz on Instagram Ortiz with a zero right. Yeah, ortiz with a zero JB and Ortiz Okay um talk to me, who is JB and Ortiz? Well, jb and Ortiz is a 20-year-old woman From Connecticut who is interested in dentistry, interested in sociology, interested in psychology. She's interested in all of that Just having a conversation, going out to eat, just regular shit like that.
Speaker 2:Okay, what school you go to?
Speaker 3:Nogatuck Valley.
Speaker 2:And what's your major?
Speaker 3:Right now I'm doing general, but next year I'm going to be transferring to Goodwin For dental hygiene.
Speaker 2:Okay, and do you have any? How much longer do you have to do One semester?
Speaker 3:So one semester. This semester is the last semester, and then I go to Goodwin University in the summer.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Summer of 2024, and that's a program for two years.
Speaker 2:So in two years you'll be complete Yup and you'll be into the field that you aspire to be in Yup. Alright, so what's the first thing you want to talk about today? Sociology, yeah, we can talk about sociology.
Speaker 3:We can talk about tic-tac we should talk about. We should talk about. So, since sociology is a big part of it, let's talk about how society is going to change In the next 10 or so years, and it's not going to be the same because of social media.
Speaker 2:I believe that society has already changed In the last 10 or so years because of social media.
Speaker 3:What do you think? When do you think that started? When do you think it all changed? Uh, what was the biggest change? Which? Because it was different.
Speaker 2:The biggest change. I would say the biggest change was Facebook. Facebook, you think so. Yeah, I think once Facebook came out. And then I would say the following platform to make the biggest change would be Instagram. Yeah, once Instagram came out and there was Instagram, twitter and Facebook, I think a lot of people's reality started to change, yep and morph with these social media platforms, but I think the biggest change came from when Instagram started letting you direct message people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Because I got Instagram. I forgot I think it was in like 2015 Because I was pretty young when Instagram was becoming popular and stuff like that but I do remember the shift from how Instagram people were posting before it started to get more serious. People started to take it a lot more serious now. So with the brand deals and stuff like that, people started to become influencers and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:I think that's when it all became a change and that's when society started to go downhill and people started to become Differentiate yeah, differentiate from reality and fake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I mean when I said their realities are starting to morph with the social media platforms. But to elaborate on what you said a little bit, I think you noticed the change later because of your age, the age gap here between us. So you don't even really know who Dipset is. That's how young you are and Dipset is huge. You was born in Harlem and I don't even know who that is, and you was born in 2003,. Right, yeah, the year you was born, dipset had New York on smash. I'm saying that I gotta get into my roots. Yeah, definitely get into your roots, I do. Yeah, I think it's because of that age gap that you say the change started to take place later. But even with MySpace, you didn't even have MySpace. I did not have MySpace, myspace, skonex these are social media platforms before your time. Yeah, I didn't even know Black people meet shit like that.
Speaker 3:That was a social media platform.
Speaker 2:You would call that a platform, I guess.
Speaker 3:Because it's like a dating app kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I might be saying the wrong one, but it's black people something. It kind of got me fucked up. But yeah, I know black people meet the dating app and then you gotta be okay with the dating app too. Yeah, but yeah. So how do you feel social media affects the youth?
Speaker 3:Oh, I feel as though it affects the youth, because kids don't want to be kids anymore. Kids don't want to be kids anymore Kids, alright. So I think it all stems from the parents. So parents letting their kids be open to unlimited internet access and giving them these opportunities. They give them the iPad and their phones at a really young age and they're just letting them do whatever they want on these iPads and on their phones and on their apps and not really realizing how dangerous it is.
Speaker 3:And I don't think society as a whole wants to actually acknowledge the fact that Social media is not as good as people may seem.
Speaker 3:There's good in social media, like I'm here right now on this podcast We've got to be coming in contact with me because of social media but on the youth, and at a certain point we have to acknowledge the fact that it's not all what it seems to be the mix of realities. And for younger kids especially, I work with kids personally, I work at the YMCA and they're very influenced. Kids are sponges, they pick up on everything. They're very influenced by their surroundings and what they're seeing. And if they're seeing a bunch of older people and they're gonna see a bunch of older people and people who have filters on and they look a certain way. The kids are gonna want to become that certain person and they're not gonna want to be kids anymore, like the preteen era when I was growing up, there was a preteen era and kids were really into justice and really into like, hmm, like justice and hanging out with their friends at the mall and doing things that preteens would actually do.
Speaker 2:Like going outside playing catch riding bikes.
Speaker 3:For Christmas, even for Christmas.
Speaker 3:Christmas is coming up and you know, I don't even see kids playing outside, playing hide and go seek anymore Playing basketball outside. I don't even see kids Because in my neighborhood I live in a complex and a lot of the kids they're not outside anymore. I don't even see kids riding their bikes anymore. Never, never, no scooters At their age. For Christmas I wanted a bike. I wanted like from like 10 to 13. I wanted dolls. I was still playing with dolls, like my little cousin. She's 12 right now. What she wants for Christmas? She wants lube lemon. She wants drunk elephant. I don't even know what that is. I know it's a skincare thing, but I don't even know to the extent of what that is. She wants like jewelry. She wants like clothes. When I was 13, when I was 10, 13, I didn't even want any clothes. I wanted toys and I just wanted stuff that I can play with, so I can play with them outside with my friends. Now, kids they don't want that. They want phones. They want, like all this stuff that I don't want.
Speaker 1:How long was you when?
Speaker 2:you got your first phone.
Speaker 3:I was 13, but I was 13,. But I went through a little like phase where I was bad I'm not gonna lie, I don't know in 2016 I had gotten my first phone and that kind of messed everything up with that, because I took advantage of it and I was also like open to like unlimited internet access when I was a kid. And I did this thing in 2016, when the whole clown era was going on. I'm gonna expose myself right now, because this was bad.
Speaker 2:Okay, talk to me.
Speaker 3:So in 2016, I was in eighth grade and I had gotten my first phone. So over the summer, you know, I was a little my little phone and stuff like that. And then In October I had made a clown account with my friend. With my friend, and the clown account consisted of me and my friend. We were pretending to be like a scary clown that was gonna come to my school and I was in middle school, I was in eighth grade. So I had a pretending I was gonna come to the school and it was a big thing. And I remember I had a Samsung. I had one of the Samsung, a Samsung Note with like a little pen inside of it. So I had had that and I still went outside. At this time I was literally like 13 years old.
Speaker 3:So after that I had to do. I had made the account. I had stood home from school that day too, so I was there like all day. So once my mom had came home and I was done with she had came home, whatever I had went outside with my friends. So I left my phone inside the house with my mom and I had went outside with my friends and I came back inside of their house around like eight o'clock. Once I had came inside the house, that account was deleted.
Speaker 3:People were blowing on my phone talking about they're gonna call the cops on me. They had found out it was me because it was my friend, one of my friends. She had told one of her friends that it was me and the friend that she told her mom. And then her mom was like I'm gonna call the cops. This is not okay. So she called the cops. She had complained to them or told them that this is going on, so that we do. My friend Amelia, she was also involved with it. Oh yeah, she had been involved with it. She had deleted the account when she was afraid. And then, yeah, and then the next morning I was kind of, I was scared the whole day. The next morning I went to my mom's room. I was crying, telling my mom oh, my God, I can't go to school, I'm so scared. So then after that she had told me like no, you gotta go to school. She's like I don't know what you're talking about, because I didn't tell her at the time I was scared I was not telling her.
Speaker 3:So she was like you gotta go to school. And I was like, all right, so I went to school. I was scared. My best friend, she was there the whole time with me. She was in my neighborhood, so she was on the bus with me. She had went into school with me. Tell me that I'll be going to school and I go straight to the guidance counselor because I'm scared, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1:I'm anxious.
Speaker 3:So we go to the guidance counselor and there's a girl in there and she's crying. She's crying, she's crying and my friend it's her friend. She's like why are you crying? She's like, are you okay? Like what's going on? She's like I'm scared of the clown. I'm scared of the clown. The clowns are going to come to the school. Mind you, I'm the clown behind the account and I'm sitting there and I kind of turn. I'm so crying, I kind of turn and I just start laughing because I just know that it's me and I feel bad. But like I start crying, I start laughing and I start crying more because I'm like, damn, like people are really scared of this. And then eventually, after that, I had gotten suspended for, I think, like a week or so, for that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I got suspended, I had to go to court, I had community service and I had to. Yeah, basically for that. And, mind you, I live in a really like white kind of like town, so it's like a really small town, but after that, where I was going with the story was after that, when I went home, my mom found out. She was pissed, she was so mad, she made me smash my phone with the hammer and I didn't have a phone for two years after that, for two years after that, and I was 13.
Speaker 2:So let me ask you a couple of questions based off of this information you just gave me.
Speaker 1:Good.
Speaker 2:What happened to Amelia with that situation?
Speaker 3:She didn't live in Ogletuck. She had lived in Ogletuck before, but then she had moved to Bridgeport. Our beginning of eighth grade year that was in October, I think it was like in the summer. I don't think she started eighth grade with us, did she?
Speaker 2:get in trouble? No, you held it down. Did you tell her?
Speaker 3:No, all right, I told her that was my friend. I didn't say her name, I fucking I said her name. I don't think she's gonna care, she's probably gonna see this, but Um, but yeah, she's, I held it down for her.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. That's a good friend, of course. Okay, next question Were you labeled after behaving like that on the internet?
Speaker 3:On the internet, not really on the internet.
Speaker 2:Were you labeled as an individual Like? Were people like oh, that's the crazy clown girl.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, oh, to this day, to this day, to this day, One of my, one of my good friends she had just texted me a couple of days ago cause, like we, I like with my friends, like I don't really have to talk to them that often, so I kind of just like keep in contact with them sometimes. But I had texted her on snap and she had said something and she was like she's like I miss you, she's like I miss you, clown girl, and I was like I can't. So to this day, like people still like they still mentioned, they still mentioned it and one of my good, one of my good friends he's my coworker now. I had worked with him at Duncan and I had worked with him. I still work with him now at the Y.
Speaker 3:His first impression of me was look, was cause the clown the clown. The clown name was Jackson, so it was called Jackson the clown. So he calls me Jackson from time to time and I'll be like oh my goodness. But his impression of me was Jackson and he, when I first started working, when he first started working at Duncan with me, he was like that's the clown girl. He was like that's Jackson the clown. And I was like, oh my God, and he told me that and I was laughing cause it's just funny, cause it's just like it's stuff sticks with you and it's like it's like you know it's a negative thing, but like that's not all of me, cause people obviously were in eighth grade, people have done like crazy or shit, so it's not like anything like terrible, but I mean it was pretty scary in the moment, but like I'm not mad that that was kind of the thing that I was known for, if that makes sense. But yeah, that's my little, that's my little background story.
Speaker 2:Interesting, interesting. So has that affected your dating at all?
Speaker 3:I don't know, I never really dated when I was in, when I was at my high school, like that. I was kind of known as like cause, like I was kind of known as like the funny friend. Like I never really dated nobody in like in like my high school and nobody really like appealed to me except for my ex. But that was before I was. A couple of days before COVID I met him.
Speaker 2:That was your first.
Speaker 3:My first, not my first boyfriend at that school, but kind of like.
Speaker 2:Like your first love.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my first love, okay, yeah, and I'm still kind of involved with him now. But yeah, but at the school, my friend-.
Speaker 2:Still kind of involved with him now. Let's stop right there. What does that mean In today's day and age? What does that mean?
Speaker 3:Okay. So we had gone through a little breakup, just due to just due to some some things that I personally felt as though I didn't feel like I was getting dessert to be treated. So I ended things, but I ended things. But you know, he's showing me that he's changing and that he is able to change, because what I wanted him to do was I just wanted him to change the way he was like like involved with me, like if he was like the way that he was treating me like we were together for two years.
Speaker 2:So-. So how was he treating you that you didn't like?
Speaker 3:He was just doing things like it was just. He was just doing things like I didn't know his family like that and stuff like that. So it kind of just bothered me. And then you know just some differences and that, and you know he just it's just little, just like little differences that I feel as though could have been fixed.
Speaker 3:But, I kept telling him and I kept like repeating over and over and I kept letting him know like hey, like these are some things that I want you to fix, and it wasn't really getting fixed in you know time's order and like things kept getting repeated, like arguments kept getting repeated over and over again and I kind of was just tired of it. So, you know, I was like I can't do this anymore. You know, don't think this is gonna work out. No, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Was he secure yeah like sweating me secure. Like only Was he secure with himself, like did he give you issues with jealousy? Uh, not really dealing with other guys, like having male friends? No, I don't know, not like that. No, you're telling you, you you're going out too much, staying out to play things like that. No, never like that. So it was Just past it was like past issues.
Speaker 3:Like past issues because we had dealt with, we had dealt with each other before, we had had some history before and it was kind of like things that were coming up from the past coming up into our current Relationship, yeah, and it was kind of affecting your relationship a lot and we had never really settled like those issues that we had and like the past and stuff like that as well. Even though I felt like we had some of it and stuff like that, he didn't feel as though it was kind of settled and that was affecting us because it kept getting constantly brought up and brought up, and brought Up and that got tiring on my end. So I kind of was like I don't want to do this anymore. I like we keep arguing about the same shit. So it's like why would I continue to argue about the same shit from the past if You're not willing to accept it, willing to, like you know, move forward from it? Like he wasn't trying to move forward from it.
Speaker 3:So that kind of effective relationship a lot, and like his insecurities and stuff like that, I feel as though gotten the way as well and you know I got tired of it. So, yeah, I had broken up with him and I had done, you know, some things. Whatever, I had tried to get to know other people and stuff like that. But did you?
Speaker 2:fuck anyone else.
Speaker 3:No, okay, of course not. No, I didn't know, I don't like, I'm not, I'm not into that anymore, like until like just like one night. Sandra, I do are giving my body to anybody like that, because it's just like there's no point like You're only 20.
Speaker 2:What do you mean?
Speaker 3:I had a little like when I was a whole phase, not a whole phase, just like a little like phase. I was young, I was 18. So I kind of was, like you know, being fresh.
Speaker 3:Okay but I feel like I don't know now. We all go through it. But I feel like one too, because I was, I was considered like not the ugly friend, but I was considered like I was a little heavier set when I was younger, when I was like in high school and like in eighth grade so like that. So I kind of gained a lot and more confidence once I did lose weight. So I feel like I acted out on that when I was 18. So you know, but that's not me and I never wanted to. I was never gonna have sex anybody else, because these two generations is so like I don't know if I, my age group, like this generation of men is just so disgusting and it's so weird and it's just everybody's so sex to the guy that you're dealing with now.
Speaker 2:Is that your man? Yeah, that's your man. Yeah, cuz when I asked you before if you single, you said yeah.
Speaker 3:I am, but that's my man, though, looking back together.
Speaker 2:Is he single?
Speaker 3:Yeah well, both single, we're in like a dating phase, like we're in like the in the dating phase I'm boating to you but it's okay.
Speaker 2:dating to me Is dating multiple people and dating in general is Dealing with whoever getting to know people. There's no exclusivity. I know there's no. I'm your nigga, you're my bitch, or anything like that. If we're dating, I could be Dating you and we could fuck tonight, yeah, and I could go to breakfast With somebody else, somebody else tomorrow.
Speaker 3:See, that's how I feel about dating, dating, okay, dating to me is kind of the same way, because I explained this to him before too, because I had told him like we were going through like different phases, and Like I told him I was like I'm in my dating phase, like I'm talking to like multiple people, I'm talking to everyone just see who fits you best.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what I was the most appropriate for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I feel your personality. Yes, that's what I feel like dating is. That's what I feel as though dating is. But for right now, what I am doing with him is I'm exclusively dating him, and him only. So I'm not talking to anybody else and I'm only exclusively seeing him, just because I know that in the future, in whatever future, cuz you know, maybe in the next couple months or in the next couple weeks, the couple days, I know that there's a possibility of him asking me to be his girlfriend. So I'm not gonna, you know, disrespect the relationship that I'm going to have going forward with him. So I'm not gonna talk to other people as well. So we both came to the conclusion. We both came to the idea that we're both exclusively dating each other, and each other only so. But dating to me is like dating, like you can date. You can date whoever fits into your personality, which I feel as though is dating. But right now, I'm exclusively dating him.
Speaker 2:Okay, so he's exclusively dating me.
Speaker 3:Only, y'all agreed to yes, we both agreed to that. No, we're not gonna, and I trust him, and you know I trust him and we talk about it a lot and I'm actually seeing him after this.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, but that's what I feel you're changing that and saying y'all are exclusively dating Kind of eliminates my questions now, because y'all have that agreement, y'all have that exclusivity, yeah, so it's kind of like y'all y'all already in a relationship, pretty much kind of yeah. And it's somebody that you've been dealing with for a while, for a while.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've, just it's about to be. Since I've known him, it's about to be four years since before COVID even happened. So like March, like 10th, I met. Do you have kids? No, I don't know. Do you want kids? Yeah, eventually. Does he have kids?
Speaker 2:No, he's in school, we're both in school. Okay, so let's say, hypothetically speaking, you ended up pregnant.
Speaker 3:Hmm.
Speaker 2:What are you gonna do?
Speaker 3:Get an abortion.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you're team abortion.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm tea. I'm pro choice. I'm team pro choice. Whatever you want to do, it's your body, is your body, your choice. If you want to keep it, keep it, go ahead. We do what you gotta do. But if you want to have an abortion, I'm not gonna be against it. I'm not gonna tell you to do otherwise.
Speaker 2:It's not my body, it's your body, all right so I have a question good posted and I want to ask you, and I want you to be honest with me. I don't want you to lie to me, mm-hmm, because nine out of ten girls are gonna look at me and Lie right to my face when I asked him this question.
Speaker 3:Oh, I don't got nothing alive about.
Speaker 2:You've been with your nigga five years yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're doing hi, you're doing the hypotheticals Come on, come on, all right.
Speaker 2:He's been flawless. You've been happy. Y'all are engaged. You met his entire family. He has his master's in finance. He makes a hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. He always spends a big bag on you. He bought you a car. He buys you jewelry. He treats you well. He's respectful. You live in his home. You drive his cars. Life is good, okay, life is great, okay. So what's? So? What's? He took you From whatever situation you was in and brought you to where you're at now. Okay, one night he comes home. He tells you he made a mistake. Mm-hmm, it was only once. It'll never happen again. No, he cheated on you. Oh, she's pregnant.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:What happens next if this is your story, jasmine?
Speaker 3:what happens next is I'm leaving. I'm not saying I told you what I, what I left when I was getting tolerated, when I was literally no ties, no, nothing attached, whatever, even if there was. I'm out. I'm leaving because if somebody cheats on you, they don't respect you, they're disrespecting you. It's not that they don't love you, it's that they don't respect you. Because stop right there, no, go, because what?
Speaker 2:does? I'm gonna insert myself into the situation as if this was us. What does me cheating, what does me Stepping out with this woman have? How does that disrespectful to you, how am I disrespecting you?
Speaker 3:because if you know that you have a good woman at home, let's say that I'm a good woman that is both equal, like we're both equally good to each other and we're both treating each other the way you know. We want to be treating stuff like that. So let's say if you have a good woman at home, if you have somebody who's good to you at home, you're going out and you're disrespecting them by going to find somebody else and going to sleep with somebody else. You have somebody at home who you can go and sleep it and you're going to go, not a going and finding somebody else situation.
Speaker 3:So what kind of?
Speaker 2:situation is what if it's a situation where it's presented to you?
Speaker 3:Like what do you mean? Presented to you, like somebody's like throwing ass at you and you're just like why are you catching it? Why are you going out of your way? And you're going out of your way to go catch that shit. Why, what's up with that? Are you going out of your way if you know you have somebody at home who you truly love, who you care about, who you want, but literally get married to the fact that you're engaged? You're buying them everything. You're cheating. I'm so right. How are you gonna go out? And just because somebody's throwing, that's what somebody I don't want to, I don't want to be with. That's superficial.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been together so well five years so what, I don't care. This is his first time, so what? Making this mistake?
Speaker 3:That's not a mistake. That's not a mistake. That's not a mistake that I'm gonna stick by. I'm not gonna stick around for that's a mistake that you choose to do. You chose to do that. I'm not gonna stick around for that. You didn't do that out of like, oh, like, oh. I'm just, oh, I'm just being silly one night and I'm just, oh, my god, she just came on me all the time that we ended up having sex. No, you chose to have sex. You chose to put in the kind of, regardless or not. You chose to do that. So why would I stick around for somebody who is gonna be Blinded by superficialness, like I don't care if she does throwing acid, you and you're catching that shit in the club, whatever, that is still something that is superficial and it's I don't. I don't fuck with that.
Speaker 2:Okay. So, with that being said, so you're telling me you're gonna walk away from this situation? Yeah?
Speaker 3:I don't care how good and you're gonna go back home. Yeah, I don't care, I will go back home and you're gonna get a job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but in this, and you're gonna pay for that, you're gonna pay off the rest of the car notes and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:I'm not taking the cars. You can keep the car. I'm not taking the car. You can keep it. Anything that's associated with somebody who did not respect me, I'm not keeping it. I'm sorry. You can take the car. You can take the housing. You take the jewelry. You take all that because none of that stuff really matters to me. You're not lying to me right now. I'm not lying. Why would I lie?
Speaker 3:I have nothing to live away from, yes, luxury yes, and go back to Because if this is a real situation, if this is a real scenario, I would have my own stuff on my own.
Speaker 3:If I'm being honest with you, yeah, if I mean if this is a real situation, if this is like a real, like scenario that I was put into, I would not be Depending on a man for my money and for my happiness and for my stuff, because that's not the type of person I am.
Speaker 3:I'm the person I like to have my own stuff on the side, just in case some shit like that could actually happen in Like real, in real life. Like I'm not gonna depend on somebody else because I know that anything can happen, that people can just like Fuck something up and that like I don't, I won't have that one day, no matter what. So I know, like that's that person I am, like I'm gonna have my own stuff on the side, no matter if it's like in your face or not, no matter if you know or not, I'm always gonna have my own stuff on the side, like money, like my own car, like my own place to stay and stuff like that. Like I'm always gonna have that on the side before I can put my dependency on one person, because I'm all I got at the end Of the day you can establish yourself.
Speaker 2:Of course I am mad at you. Of course I am mad at you.
Speaker 3:Of course I gotta have this you gotta have this mindset, especially in this day and age, when people would do stuff like that and they would, god Forbid she on you like that. Oh no, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta. Stay on 10 toes all the time.
Speaker 2:Okay, I like that, thanks. Let me ask you this, this you have these two men right here, oh God, oh God. Option a, which is this gentleman? I don't know if you have a type, but this is just the type that he's depict is that money bag Yo.
Speaker 3:Yes, I hate money bag Yo. Oh my god, I fucking hate him.
Speaker 2:All right, we'll get into that. So option a is a Money bag, yo, but this is who he depicted to be okay, yeah, no, some fake money bag. He's a trapper. He makes 1.5 a year. Before you lost him. A trapper, sorry. He makes 1.5 a year.
Speaker 3:I don't care, you lost me with traffic. I don't care you lost me with that. He has four kids. What the fuck? Okay, keep going.
Speaker 2:Sorry, bm.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 2:He has two houses, three cars. I wish they could see my face. He caught multiple domestic violence cases. Are you serious? And he's known for being abusive to women, but he's a big spender.
Speaker 3:Who the fuck cares?
Speaker 2:I don't care you drop a bag on your do-k-your rent for six months at a time.
Speaker 3:While he's beating me. What do I look like? What is? What is a movie that's like that? Oh my god. Oh my god. So Tyler Perry movie. What do I look like? Sick? Wait a minute, that's gonna beat me and he's gonna pay my bills. I don't fuck about that shit.
Speaker 2:Okay, I ain't mad at you. Then you got option B. Is it engineer Mark Zuckerberg? What he's depicted to be 120 K a year, no kids lives with his best friend in the two bedroom apartment, saving money. He drives a 2013 Toyota Corolla driver 2008.
Speaker 3:Come on now.
Speaker 2:He loves to play computer games and be isolated. He will not spend money on you, but he will be respectful, courteous and very affectionate.
Speaker 3:Give me the Mark Zuckerberg out of this. I'm not dealing with no one who's gonna be beating people and doing that. Okay, be a woman and shit. No, hell, no, we're not doing that. So I'd rather get the. I see, that's my type, like I like. Like, like a quiet, reserved man who's not really like out there, like that, who couldn't treat me well, I'm not. No crazy, crazy man will be in the streets as dangerous. Don't like that.
Speaker 3:So Street leaders don't turn you on hell, no, they turn me off all the way off, like all the way off, okay, all the way.
Speaker 2:Okay, when do you plan on Taking things to the next level with this, this guy? You want to name him. You want to put it out there. I'm not putting out there.
Speaker 3:Okay, no, I'm not putting it out there, Not yet, not yet.
Speaker 2:No, not yet. He's not worthy of being announced.
Speaker 3:He is, but I don't. I'm scared.
Speaker 2:What are you scared of?
Speaker 3:I don't know. Put it out there, because when you put your business out there, one people know who you're really dealing with. That's when people start to hate and they start to to get you know, resentment and like weird, like stuff. Like you know he's not really into nothing, like he's, he's very smart, he's a very smart kid or man. Sorry, he's a very smart man and you know people. He don't really get involved in a lot of drama and stuff like that and not a lot of people know him from my time and stuff like that. And I'm not worried about anybody like out to get him or anything like that. I just don't like people being in my business, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3:Like knowing who I'm like dealing with and stuff like that, cause it's like people will resign, people start to hate, and it's weird For sure, it's mad, weird For sure. But will you can ask me?
Speaker 2:Do you uh? Oh, what do you see? What do you see, like, what's the next step? Yeah, what's your next step?
Speaker 3:Next step honestly is he is gonna become.
Speaker 2:And when do you see that next step being taken?
Speaker 3:Next step that I feel as though is eventually maybe moving in, but this won't be in like no recent like, in no like recent time, like this, is not like anytime soon. This is kind of like in the next like five, five to seven years ish. Because he's going to law school. He's gonna become a lawyer. So he's in school now and he's gonna graduate next year, in 2024. So he's gonna become a lawyer.
Speaker 2:He's gonna law school. A lawyer does he aspire to be?
Speaker 3:Uh, ip attorney, IP attorney, yeah, so he wanna work to like.
Speaker 2:Intellectual property.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so he wants to do that and you know I wanna be. You know I wanna first, before I even like get into anything like with kids and like moving this and like that, I wanna get my career settled. I wanna make money and be in a financial stability. I get a place of financial stability so that I can support me and I can support my goals and like my future goals and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Do you and this gentleman believe in traditional roles or non-traditional roles, like how is that going?
Speaker 3:We haven't really talked about that. From being honest with you, yeah, like non-traditional traditional roles, like the traditional roles of like well, like I have to stay home, like cooking, cleaning and stuff like that, and like yeah, you know, like you, yeah, you cook and clean and do the laundry and stuff like that and help man the fort, hold down the crib, get the bills. Yeah, we talked about that.
Speaker 2:He provides security and protection. Yeah, we've talked about that In the man of the house Are those roles that y'all both agree with?
Speaker 3:We did yeah, we agreed on also, like he can also take on some of those roles, cause I'm pretty sure, like not to diagnose anything like that, but he has like some forms, like maybe like OCD or like he's like very clean.
Speaker 3:So, like you know, I feel like we both can take on some of those roles, like he said, like sometimes, like you know, maybe, like you know like I'll cook and like he'll do the dishes type thing, like you know, like stuff like that Because that's what I feel like, that's what like in my family, like that's what some of he hasn't met my uncle or something like that but that's what my uncle believes in, like what he does with his wife and stuff like that, and they've been married for like 35 years, like they've been married for like a really long time.
Speaker 3:Like she'll cook and she'll do like a lot of like the cooking, like for Christmas or something like that, even for, like you know, like regular, like they'll just make a meal, like she'll cook and stuff like that and who like wash your dishes and like clean up the kitchen like after her and stuff like that and make sure like she's good, like he'll help set up the table and like he'll do like little things around the house. So I don't like we don't like 100% believe in like traditional, like a hard, like oh, you have to be cooking and cleaning and then I have to be like stuff like that.
Speaker 3:But there is like compromise and stuff like that within, like the relationship, which I feel as though every relationship needs, because you know you can't really have one person do like everything, like you can't like, you know, not just so she may be doing that too, so she may be having a seem like people need to do, like one gender needs to be doing one thing, or like another gender needs to be doing another thing and like needs to be strict on like these like gender social, like roles and stuff like that, and I don't know I don't know.
Speaker 2:All right, I have another question. I just thought of this one too. Good, let's say, let's call him John. Okay, his name is John. Now, for the remainder of this episode, let's say you and John are good. Same situation, right?
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:And he had the intention of cheating on you. He's talking to somebody that have a back and forth conversation and he he makes an attempt, he tries to be inappropriate with a lady and she calls him on it and then she notifies you. Now how does that situation differentiate from the last situation where he was actually able to penetrate a female and physically cheat on you? Now that he didn't cheat on you, now that it didn't go that far, does he still have a chance?
Speaker 3:No, because you're giving other people the opportunity to you and you're trying to get with other people while you're trying to also get with me, and I mean that's a situation where it's like talking that we're because we both expect our exclusively dating. So it's like the fact that you're going out of your way and you're talking to other people, knowing that we're exclusively dating, is kind of just like why are you doing that? That's the disrespect.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's disrespectful, because it's like we both agree to something, so why are you going to go out of your way to go and disrespect what we both agreed on? So it's like, why would you do that? And that's kind of just like I would cut it off. I'd be like, no, because if you know, because I got through it, we were to get into a relationship. Like what would you do if we were in a relationship and I was to find that out? And you would do the same thing, like you know what I'm saying. So why would I get hurt, knowing and put myself in a situation where I know I could possibly get hurt?
Speaker 2:There would be nothing he could do to rectify that.
Speaker 3:I mean with time, like if he was, I would end it off right there and then eventually like he'd have to show me like he's actually like serious about, like pursuing me and stuff like that. And how would you do that? By talking to just me and to just doing it over again and just trying to do it over and not talk to other people while he's talking to me.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it's like you know, and how can he show you that he's not talking to other people while he's talking to you?
Speaker 3:That's a good question.
Speaker 2:How can you show?
Speaker 3:that.
Speaker 2:Cause you're always gonna have that in the back of your mind, that he's texting someone. Or when his phone rings, you're gonna think that's another bitch texting him, or something like that. So how could he comfort you and let you know Reassurance?
Speaker 3:I guess I'm only talking to you. Reassurance, I guess Like he can reassure me and he can like action through a lot of them words. Okay, so he can like show me and like he can like cause, like you know, like in your feeling. I don't know, women's intuition is like everything, yeah.
Speaker 3:Women's intuition is everything.
Speaker 3:So like you can kind of know when somebody is like doing dirt, like if somebody is like actually like playing you and stuff like that, and you can just know from like the way that they're speaking to you, the way they're treating you Like if they're not taking you out on dates, if they're not actually like being like a 100% about new and like what I mean.
Speaker 3:But 100% is like taking more on like dates and like actually like they're saying like they want to see you, like they actually want to see you, like they actually wanna have like a conversation to do. Like if they're just coming to see you and it's like night time and like you already know what type like of it's like nighttime and they're not actually like trying to have a good conversation with you and they're just trying to like like just getting your pants, then you know. But just by actions, like actions speak a lot, a lot of them words, and you'll know if a man truly likes you or not. Like I don't know. I don't know how to explain it, cause you'll just know, yeah, you'll just know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you'll definitely know.
Speaker 3:You will by the way that they treat you, by the way that they talk to you, by the way they talk about you, like you. Just you'll know.
Speaker 2:All right, I seen something on Facebook earlier and it really boiled my blood, so I wanna get your opinion on this. I'm gonna read it to you so our listeners could hear it and they could weigh in as well. Okay, mm-hmm, this is a post from Angie Dorrette. Hopefully I said her name right. Good morning everybody. I want all y'all input into this situation. December 6th I was at work minding my business 15 minutes before I leave to go get the kids from school program. I got a call from right at the school saying hey, angie. I'm like hey. She said Naima went to the bathroom, naima's, angie's daughter. She went to the bathroom with Grant and came out with no pants. On what I was like what happened? She sounded irritated on the phone, so I hung up and got in my car. So when I got there, all her bosses were there and I'm like first of all, why is a man taking my female baby to the bathroom?
Speaker 3:How old is?
Speaker 2:her daughter Five years old?
Speaker 2:What? Five years old? They told me that. They told her that she was being inappropriate. No, because that man claims to be non-binary. What so she's like? Listen to me, lady. She's five years old. She doesn't know any of these terms. She sees a man taking her to the bathroom. They kept going back and forth for about 45 minutes no result. They told her three different stories. She asked for a report. This is what they gave her a week later. It's an incident report, an injury report, and it says listen to this, this girl was five years old. No, bro. It says Naima asked to use the restroom during program.
Speaker 2:Grant was the educator monitoring the bathroom breaks at the time. As Naima was walking into the restroom, she told Grant, I'm going to make things hard for you. She proceeded into the restroom and a few minutes later she walked out of the store only wearing a shirt and her underwear. Grant directed her to put her pants back on. She put her pants on and after a few minutes, grant then asked her to wash her hands and she refused but cooperated after several reminders. As Grant and Naima were walking back into the cafeteria, she said to Grant I'm going to get you fired. Another right at the school staff member sat Naima down and asked her about the comments she made towards Grant, and that was the incident report. I'm going to ask you for your opinion on that and then I'm going to give you my take on it.
Speaker 3:First of all, non-binary or not. Pronouns like that you know non-binary or not why is the baby coming out the bathroom with no pants on? Why are you allowing the baby to come out the bathroom with no pants on? Like I work with five-year-old kids, like I work with kids who are four, who are in kindergarten through fourth grade. Kids do not say I'm gonna make things, I'm gonna get you fired, I'm gonna make things hard for you. Kids do not say that.
Speaker 2:Have you ever seen a five-year-old kid say anything like that?
Speaker 3:No, they don't even know how to form sentences like that, for they don't even know how to say they don't even. Oh my god. No, I know a lot of five-year-olds that speak very well yeah. I know a lot of five-year-olds that speak very well, but they don't even know what that like what getting fired means.
Speaker 2:Like they don't know what like they don't know that's a job they don't know that it's a.
Speaker 3:They don't even know that. I'm like that when I tell them, they're like, oh, like, they're like what are you doing here? And I'm like this is my job, I work here, and they're like what do you mean? Like even to the second graders, the second and third graders they don't even like, they're not even like comprehending it like that, because at that age, like psychologically, they don't understand that people can have two different things. Like that your teachers are like they have two different lives. They don't understand. I learned about that in psychology. They don't perceive it as, like you know, they can have like two different lives until they're in, like fourth grade. So it's like so they just think you're in that college pretty fast, they just think for yeah, for like the whole, for like, yeah, they really do think that.
Speaker 3:So when they see you like, like, like, they see their teacher, like the store and something like that, they're like what are you doing here? It's supposed to be at that school, you're not supposed to be here. They don't, they can't perceive it. So it's crazy. That's like. That's, that's weird. No, that's weird. No, I think something else is going on in the situation. So I have a daughter. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:And had I been the parent in that situation, I would have went to jail.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because there's something else going on.
Speaker 2:Because no way Because I would have, at the age of five, my daughter. I would have asked her what happened. Yeah, what happened? And why did you come out of the bathroom with no pants on Right? Whatever story she gives me, whatever story my daughter gave me at that point I'm believing that Would be gold. Yeah, and that would be my reaction If she said something inappropriate was done. Yep, I now have a felony charge on my hands. Yeah, because Grant, the non-binary man in that situation, or the non-binary person who was born with a penis yeah, I would put my hands on Grant. Yeah, and that would be that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because that's unacceptable. There's no reason a five-year-old should be coming out of the bathroom.
Speaker 3:You shouldn't even be in the bathroom. That's not what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2:You shouldn't even be doing that. You could open the door. Hey, go into that store.
Speaker 3:You can't.
Speaker 2:Give me a shout when you're done. Yeah, and I'll open the door, or just come back out when you're done, but you stepping foot into that bathroom, closing the door like that's not allowed. Is where it becomes inappropriate, is where yeah, you're not even gonna it becomes incorrect.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:If you're even considering going in the bathroom, that door should be wide open, wide open.
Speaker 3:You're not supposed to be doing that. Where's the other-? And there should be another staff member. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:First of all, there shouldn't be. If your pronouns don't match if your pronouns don't match, that should be eliminated. Like there should be no non-binary taking I disagree. There should be no non-binary taking a little girl to the bathroom. I disagree. Or there should be no female taking a male kid to the bathroom. It should be male or male, and female or female. And I think that's just my opinion, because once you have the crossover, that's where things start to get weird And-.
Speaker 3:I mean I disagree on that part Just because of the fact that we do have male and female staff at our location and we're not allowed to have one-on-one. You're not even allowed to be by yourself with a kid. We always just have another kid with us to be going to the bathroom and stuff like that. So I feel as though I disagree. Because if you are a male or a female, people have parents and uncles and stuff like that, like mom and dad and stuff like that. So the opposite gender can take another kid to the bathroom, but being allowed inside the bathroom by themselves with the kid, that should not be allowed. That's when it starts to get inappropriate and that's when I feel like that should not be allowed at all. Because if it's a male staff taking a female girl to about two female girls to the bathroom, because you can't be alone with a kid, so if it's like taking them both to the bathroom, like you gotta be outside the bathroom or you gotta like boundaries, you gotta be having boundaries with these kids.
Speaker 3:You can't be alone, you can't take off their pants, even if to the fact that, because I do agree with the certain extent of having the gender stuff like that, because if it is a situation like, say the kid they go to the bathroom, say the kid that gets to the bathroom, like, say it's a male taking a female to the bathroom and like she like pooped her pants, like in that aspect, like you have to get a female staff to come so that she can like help her, like wipe herself and like get her cleaned up and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:That's where it should, that's where we just want to see right there, because if there's any type of mishap in the bathroom, he can't help.
Speaker 3:He can't help. No, I'm saying he can't help. I'm saying a female has to come into the bathroom and help the girl.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm saying that it should be same genders locked in. There should be no male ever taking a little girl to the bathroom Because, let's say, she's in there and she pees on her pants while she's pulling her panties down, or something like that. What can he, what help can he provide in that situation? Can he go grab paper towels and help clean her up? No, that would be highly inappropriate. No, that would be. Yeah, he should go to jail.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be appropriate. But if it's a female teacher and it's a little girl in there, she could provide the attention she needs, she could help her out, she could give her the paper towel, she could tell her what to do, she could guide her.
Speaker 3:Okay, what about if it's a female teacher and a boy student? Because I understand that mothers can be mothers to boys and girls. So how would you feel if it was in that?
Speaker 2:Same thing with that too, I would feel like that would be a more acceptable situation. But just to set a standard, I think it should be same sex, same sex. Okay, just to set a standard. So there's no discrepancies Like, oh, women are more psychologically secure and we believe that the children would be safer with them, so we'll allow women to cross over genders.
Speaker 3:But men can't, because that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3:It doesn't make any sense because men can be fathers to women, to girls and boys. Exactly so okay.
Speaker 2:So I think just to avoid all type of discrepancies, it should be same sex gender whenever any type of bathroom situation is going, because if my daughter tells me a man took her to the bathroom, I'm gonna have a problem with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah and like because I don't know how different rules are, like in a school sense and stuff like that, because I don't know was that like at a preschool, like that was like a daycare, like where was that at?
Speaker 2:Five years old. I'm assuming it would be like a school program with a daycare program.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like cause I work at the daycare, I work at the YMCA, I work at a before and after school program, so just in that sense, like the state is heavy on like making sure that there's certain rules that are implied. Like, if you're gonna take somebody to the bathroom, you're gonna be alone with the kid. You cannot be alone one-on-one with that child, no matter if it's a girl, no matter if it's a boy, no matter if it's a girl boy staff, you cannot be alone with the kid at any time at all. So I don't know, that's just like.
Speaker 3:That situation is just really, really weird to me, because it's like, why are you being? Why are you taking a kid to the bathroom and going inside the bathroom and the kid is coming out with no pants on? That has never, no matter what situation, no matter if she pooped her pants or she peed her pants or whatever. There's no situation where you're supposed to have the kid with no clothes on and you're just allowing it to happen. Like, where was the other staff that's going on with that? Where's the other staff to make sure that the kid has an extra pair of clothes? Like where's the extra pair of clothes? Like, where's the clothes, even at. What did he do with the stuff like that. So that situation is just really weird to me and it's just really like where did that happen?
Speaker 2:Where did this happen? Let me see.
Speaker 3:Cause that's like really like weird and off, like depending on Westie.
Speaker 2:I don't think, I don't think she revealed that in the yeah, she didn't reveal that in the post. Oh, hold on. It says right at school, right at school program, whatever that is. Right at school like right, like writing, or like right Right, like left, right right at school program. That's the name of the program.
Speaker 3:No way.
Speaker 2:Is that something familiar with you're familiar with Hamden.
Speaker 3:CT.
Speaker 2:School Brookdale.
Speaker 3:School Brookdale.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the right at school program and the school is Brookdale.
Speaker 3:Oh okay, what WA? What's WA? Illinois? There's a bunch of programs, there's a bunch of them.
Speaker 2:Any Brookdale school coming up.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:You're not looking right up there?
Speaker 2:Okay, well, yeah, that's where that took place. That was, uh, I thought that was pretty interesting and, um, yeah, that was something I wanted to speak on Also, uh, Is Wyoming South Tacoma.
Speaker 3:Why? What is that Wyoming WA?
Speaker 2:Washington.
Speaker 1:Oh shit wow Wow.
Speaker 3:My best friend goes to Howard too. How did I know?
Speaker 2:that. Yeah, Now Howard's in Washington DC, that's.
Speaker 3:Washington State, that's.
Speaker 2:Washington State. Yeah, so Washington State is all the way on the West Coast, but okay, a CT drug kingpin smuggle cocaine through mail in Bluetooth speakers from Puerto Rico. What A waterberry man was sentenced to 17 years in federal prison this week for heading a drug trafficking ring that used Bluetooth speakers to smuggle cocaine through the US mail. Officials said what? Pierre de Sean Rodriguez, also known as OC, was also sentenced by US District Judge Michael P Shea in Harford to 210 months in prison, followed by five years of supervised release. According to the US Attorney's Office, the 42-year-old's criminal history spans more than 25 years and includes multiple drug convictions. Federal officials said In 2013, he was sentenced in state court to 15 years in prison, suspended after 90 months, for possession with intent to sell. On August 18, 2022, rodriguez pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute five kilograms or more cocaine after an investigation led by the US Postal Inspection Service bulk cash trafficking task force determined that he was running a trafficking operation. Damn.
Speaker 3:So he's been doing this? They just caught up to him. Yeah, they just caught him. Now he's been. He probably still will do it in prison too. He probably had people.
Speaker 2:So he's been doing that shit. If you're looking for them birds, they got them in water burry. No, I've been doing that, I've been doing that Water burry is.
Speaker 3:oh my God, water burry is not real.
Speaker 2:That shit is different If you're looking for them, birds, they got them in water. Burry man, that shit is different.
Speaker 3:Water burry is different, different different.
Speaker 2:You following all of the blue-face and croissant drama. No, I don't care about that. Yeah me neither.
Speaker 3:I don't care about that shit.
Speaker 2:I'm not really into croissant. I don't like antics and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:I think it's all fake. Sorry, I think it's all fake. I think it's all just for publicity. I think it's all for people, just. I think it's all for social media. Quite frankly, I think it's all for money and for publicity so they both can get big His baby mama's involved with it. This is a whole plot, this is a whole scheme that everybody just get up and get money. It's a circus. It definitely is, and I think it's bad for the. I think it's so bad because, like they're profiting from it, but the youth and the people who's watching is literally getting like influenced from it.
Speaker 2:Do you listen to any of their music for show Hell no. Jaden Blueface no.
Speaker 3:I don't care about none of that shit?
Speaker 2:No, hell, no, yeah. I think just their music sucks anyways. The quality of their music is poor All of them. What do you think about complex naming Ski Yee by Sexy Red the song of the year in 2023?
Speaker 3:I think it's a good song. I think it's a bop, I think it's catchy, it's very out there, but I think it's for adults only. I think it's only an adult song because the like I'm saying, the youth is getting influenced by all that, all that that Ski Yee and all that shit like that. You know, they get influenced by it and they're seeing it and that's what they want to kind of be and I think it's a bad influence. But I think it's for the adults only and it's hard to kind of keep it away because I've seen like some videos on like TikToks about like parents like playing that around like their kids and stuff like that and the kids like knowing and it's like in like the classroom, like I've used to the videos about like how it's like in the classrooms and like teachers are like making songs like out of the remixes like stuff like from it yeah, remixes and songs like that.
Speaker 3:Like I think that's like inappropriate because it's literally an adult song. But it's hard to kind of like get it away from the kids because the kids are on TikTok and TikTok is a big influence, a part of society and about all that shit. So it's like, you know, like it's fucked up. It's fucked up, but I think that it's a good song. It's a bop, I love it. I love Sexy Red and myself I'm not going to lie, her songs are very catchy, but you know, I think it's an adult only song and song of the year.
Speaker 2:Despite it being an adult only song, do you think it was worthy of being the song of the year for 2023? You have to consider all of the great artists out there, all of the lyricists, all of the niggas. That's really put in in pain.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I don't know, but I think it was the most popular. If it was like, I think the only reason probably was the song of the year was based on popularity, because it was played like that's all. Like you go to the club, you go out, you go turn the radio. That shit is on the radio. I think it's only based on popularity.
Speaker 2:That's definitely an interesting take and I could actually agree with that because it was a very popular song. It was mad popular, it was literally.
Speaker 3:So she was, she literally blew up this, like I think it was this year she blew up, or like a little bit last year she blew up, I think. I think it definitely was a song of the year because of the popularity. But like song of the year, like lyrically and like you know, like, like in terms of quality, in terms of quality, like, no, I don't think it deserves some.
Speaker 2:Okay, there we go, I. That was a take that I can actually agree on 100%. Yeah, based on popularity, that would be the song of the year. But based off of quality and lyricism is far from the song of the year. Far from talk to me about Nikki's Nikki's album and how you felt about it.
Speaker 3:I love Nicki Minaj and I honestly she has a few good songs in there. Like you know, they're really catchy and like you know, I forgot what. I. Let me go look on my on my Spotify, because I know you want to get into Spotify as well. Sorry, what's the song called Barbie dangerous? Barbie dangerous that was a bop and she was doing it like she was the lyricist and stuff like that. Like it was good, but honestly it was not what I was expecting, just because it was kind of like sing songy wise and it also sounded very like tiktok, like it sounded like it was a lot of samples. It was a lot of like like fuck this club.
Speaker 2:It sounded tiktok. What does that mean?
Speaker 3:Tiktoks want to very sped up. They use a lot of samples and they're very like everybody's attention spans. People's attention spans are getting shorter and shorter by the day and I feel like the song that she was using, the songs that kind of blew up and became like kind of like really popular on it were like very like tiktok-y songs, like they were very like repetitive, like it was like it was like what is the song by Lil Uzi? What is the song by Lil Uzi? The one thing I forgot, what it was called Just want to rock. It was like it was like. It was like just want to rock. It was like a lot of like, just like catchy, kind of like quick songs. You can just kind of like make a quick trend too, and that's how I feel like like music has been doing like a lot of the times, like just like quick, kind of trendy songs.
Speaker 3:So, I feel like her album is very consistent of like, not not the full thing, because she does, you know, have some good songs on there, but like a lot of the songs that were on there that became popular were kind of like tiktok-y, like catchy, like little, like trendy songs, and I feel like that's, that's the music is becoming now, because tiktok is the biggest thing. How?
Speaker 2:do you listen to your music? How? What do you mean? How? How do you listen to your music?
Speaker 3:What platform? Oh, spotify. Why? Because app music was taking away too much storage on my phone, because I kept downloading music and it held a lot of storage on my phone so I had to delete it and then my phone, like it was like stopped working. My phone like literally was not working because like it took up so much storage so I deleted it and I just went to Spotify.
Speaker 2:So that's actually a very good argument.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't have any beef with app music. I have music for years before that.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's all right. That's actually a very valid reason, but it's not enough to leave. Yes, it is. You could just stop downloading the music.
Speaker 3:No, because I don't have service in some spots and I need that and I wanted to try it out because I heard they had the on. So what?
Speaker 2:about Spotify. You don't have to download the music, not really, no. So what if you don't have service in spots? It works.
Speaker 3:Sometimes it works yeah.
Speaker 2:But Apple, you're guaranteed it to work in those spots.
Speaker 3:No, why not Because sometimes the song would not be on there for like sometimes, when I would go like and I, even if I had a song downloaded, like it would not work, and then, like it was just not working, I'd be like what the hell? And like I'd be like on like the back roads, like going somewhere, and like my song would just stop playing and I'd be like why is it stop playing? And I would have it downloaded on my phone and then sometimes it would delete the downloads on my phone. I'd have to read download, which is why I think it took up so much storage, because it would say that the songs are downloaded and then, like, I go back and I'd have to like read download the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Was it that same device? Yeah, it was the same phone. I have this one for like three years, so let me tell you what the issue is.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's the phone.
Speaker 2:Now All of a sudden.
Speaker 3:All of a sudden, it's my phone.
Speaker 2:Because I've had my phone for I don't know how long. I'm not going to lie to you, but I have a lot of music on it. How much storage you have. Whatever was the lowest amount for iPhone 13 mini. How can you see?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 3:You gotta go to like.
Speaker 2:Think you gotta go to your storage.
Speaker 1:Go to your house.
Speaker 3:Think you gotta go to General iPhone storage. Wait, nope, not long.
Speaker 2:Alright, I don't know how to do this. Either way, the lowest one. I've had this for more than a year, more than a year and a half, and I download all my music and I never have any type of problems with it like that. See, I've been having problems in my. Which iPhone is that?
Speaker 3:iPhone 12, which I don't like it.
Speaker 2:Yes, Soundfuter upgrade baby.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no thanks, it's too much Too much.
Speaker 2:I ain't mad at you. I ain't mad at you. I'm gonna have my phone until the wheels fall off this bitch. Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying I have to move away, yeah, so, and the newest ones are bad, and you too?
Speaker 2:Alright, talk to me about 2024, what you have planned, and also tell me about the counseling service you was telling me about.
Speaker 3:Oh the the mentorship program. Oh, okay, okay. So I find 2024 is the year of me, the year of me.
Speaker 2:The year of Jasmine. The year of Jasmine, jalen Orkene.
Speaker 3:And, like I say, I don't say this every. I'm not glad I don't say this every year. I'm going into this year with a lot of different expectations. I'm not gonna expect everything to be perfect and to be 100%.
Speaker 2:You on your new year. New year shit.
Speaker 3:Not really.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:I'm on my new year, new accomplishments to my goals. So next year I told you I'm gonna do my dentistry program, so I wanna get into a lot of internships. I'm starting to look for more internships for dentistry and any dental programs of like that, just so I can get into it. And I wanna get into a lot more opportunities and everything like that. This is a new opportunity for me. This is my first time being on a podcast and being like I want anything like that and trying to kind of like grow myself and grow to know more people. But I wanna know more people and I wanna network a lot more.
Speaker 3:And I wanna get into networking. I wanna probably maybe go into real estate, maybe get my real estate license, get a new license, get a new something to do so I can make more money. Okay, and next year, hopefully, I pray inflation or something. Something things get cheaper. That's what I pray. I pray things get cheaper. I can tell you right now that's not happening next year, I know, but we can just pray. We can just pray and be delusional about that. That's what I hope Don't pray and be delusional.
Speaker 2:False hope is good sometimes. Don't prepare in yourself baby.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm doing, though. That's what I'm doing, though you know the economy is on a decline.
Speaker 2:I know, who are you voting for next year, Biden or Trump?
Speaker 3:Anybody, but is Vonda Sanchez going?
Speaker 2:to Listen, man. Fuck Vonda Sanchez and all that Sure. He might be up, you never know, but Trump got it for 2024, man, you sure I think Trump will get it.
Speaker 3:I feel like both options, I feel like all options are bad. I feel like everything's doomed.
Speaker 2:We need somebody else we need somebody new. You think Biden was a better president than Trump? Yeah, talk to me.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm not really into politics, though I can tell you're not into politics because, he's a president literally committing war crimes.
Speaker 2:You really, yeah, you're not paying attention to what's going on in Ukraine with Russia and everything that was his fault. Ukraine, Russia, Israel and Palestine. He has a. He's not doing great as a president, but Trump was the reason for COVID. How can you say Trump was the reason for COVID?
Speaker 3:Because he fired all his. What is it? What is it called it's? What is it called? Coronavirus? Was the pandemic, pandemic, control the pandemic, like the people who could protect from the pandemics. I forgot what it's called. He fired them, like a couple months before COVID.
Speaker 2:Once the pandemic hit, that's when Trump started putting on for niggas.
Speaker 3:He had to. He had no other choice. What else is he going to do? Let the country suffer like that? He had to Because he fired he literally fired the people in control of that, so he had to do that.
Speaker 2:Trump was way better president than Biden. I'm too young to be doing this. I feel like Trump is. He'll be right back in 2024. He might Just Palestine and Israel's situation alone is like I'm done with Biden.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Feel me but shout out to Jasmine for pulling up episode 16. We had some great conversation and you could definitely look forward to hearing more from her in 2024. And us doing a lot more work for her. Let them know your Instagram one more time. Jalene Ortiz, that's Ortiz, with a zero and it is live from the motherfucking gutter. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.
Speaker 3:Merry Christmas, happy New Year and talk to you soon.